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[1] Submitted by: philip@gmail.com on Thursday 17th March 2005 at 15:17 -0500

good luck and best wishes on your project

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[2] Submitted by: philip chee on Thursday 17th March 2005 at 15:18 -0500

That should be philip.chee@gmail.com but the name box isn't long enough.

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[3] Submitted by: roman on Thursday 17th March 2005 at 16:21 -0500

thank you.

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[4] Submitted by: Paul Gorodyansky on Monday 28th March 2005 at 13:00 -0500

You wrote:
=============
I still did not find a way to use javascript to prevent the letters typed by the user from being displayed. So for now at least the
code relies on translating already typed letters into a different language.
==============

Yes, it's not looking good when a user sees latin letters first on screen and then they are changing to Cyrillic before her/his eyes.

But _is_ a way in JavaScript to do it differently, imitate regular, normal input
"as at home in MS Word with system keyboard" -
Mozilla started to support needed functionality back in Summer 2003 and I wrote my utility cople month later. I was able to implement 100% normal input/correction of Russian (and Ukrainian) text.
See below.

You wrote:
===================
I have tried translating English letters into Russian as they come from the thrown event, but I found that there are synchronization
problems due to this approach that prevent this translation method from being used.
==================

I am not sure what you mean, but I don't have any 'synchronization problems' in _my_ approach and you are welcome to use my code:

My code written in 2003, it works the same way in Internet Explorer,
Netscape/Mozilla/FireFox and
Opera 8
is also Open Source, under GPL license - - so one can use my code - the only condition, as license
tells, to record the original author...

Please look here at the code (I have 2 pages there - with English and Russian UI):

.

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[5] Submitted by: Paul Gorodyansky on Monday 28th March 2005 at 13:04 -0500

Somehow the Guest Book stripped both URLs in my post, I'll try again:

a) GPL license site - I will omit dots and slashes:
opensource org licenses gpl-license php

b) My code - HTML and JavaScript - to look at (dots omitted):
Kbd RusWin net

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[6] Submitted by: Roman on Monday 28th March 2005 at 15:10 -0500

Thanks Paul, I however already found what I wanted yesterday and implemented a new release which will be downloadable by the end of the day today. I also fixed the scrolling problems within the text input field so that now when the keys are typed the text area contents do not jump.

Thank you again,
Roman

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[7] Submitted by: Mikhail Markin on Thursday 31st March 2005 at 16:31 -0500

Roman - your project is simply awesome. I can't wait to be able to tweak the key layout.

Best regards,

Mikhail

P.S. A variant of this for Thunderbird would be absolutely amazing!

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[8] Submitted by: Roman on Friday 1st April 2005 at 17:13 -0500

The extension is fully functionning in Mozilla Suite 1.7.6 I am almost positive it will run in Thunderbird and I will try later. But if someone wishes to give it a whack, you can do and tell us maybe?

Thanks.

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[9] Submitted by: Mikhail Markin on Saturday 2nd April 2005 at 12:26 -0500

I just gave it a try (to confirm) and it does not seem to work under Thunderbird 1.0.2. The 'A/Ya' icon is nowhere to be found and I can't get the context menu to show up in any dialog/screen.

Mikhail

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[10] Submitted by: kazzi on Sunday 3rd April 2005 at 03:10 -0400

I can't even get the latest Thunderbird to accept the extension on XP. Looks a real neat project though and I will definately follow its progress.

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[11] Submitted by: acebone on Thursday 7th April 2005 at 11:18 -0400

Just wanted to commend you on a great extension and a great idea.

Also I'd like to suggest that russkey would work as a toggle - so that I could highlight cyrillian letters and have them converted to latin (and back again if need be).

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[12] Submitted by: Roman on Thursday 7th April 2005 at 13:23 -0400

acebone: Thanks. You can refresh the page and it will be reset, so at least in that way this toggle functionality is redundant. It is also difficult to do, because it will not work as 1:1 translation back and forth. It is possible to store the value that is about to be transformed, of course and replace it back later, but there are multiple technical problems with that approach. What if the user transforms a small portion of the text and then decides to transform a greater portion that either partially or completely includes already transformed text? It's not a trivial task and will make the extension more complicated. I will think abot it, but for now atleast I am inclined to say no.
Thanks for the interest.

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[13] Submitted by: Roman on Sunday 10th April 2005 at 04:22 -0400

Russ Key 0.4 supports ThunderBird 1.0.2 Haven't tested with other versions yet.

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[14] Submitted by: Greg on Monday 11th April 2005 at 03:26 -0400

I'm learning this language for few months and found RussKey extension really useful. Now, using web dictionaries is really easy without Russian keyboard layout. Really good work. Thank You :)

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[15] Submitted by: acebone on Monday 11th April 2005 at 06:59 -0400

Hi Roman !

I agree that storing what was there before would be less optimal. But the fact that it is not a clean 1:1 translitteration is of minor concern imo.

I often scour the net for info on russian aviators of the 'Great Patriotic War', and sometimes I bump into russian pages with tables of info - in cyrillic of course.

It is still diff. for me to read cyrillic although I am almost there (I do not speak any russian unfortunately), so being able to convert cyr. into latin would be nice.

I guess I could make my own substitution string for it

Still Russ-key rocks

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[16] Submitted by: Roman on Monday 11th April 2005 at 11:18 -0400

acebone: well, at some point I am going to externalize the rules of translit->russian transformation, so it will be possible to modify the rules to go either way and to do it for different languages even. I guess I should add a long term goal for 2 things: 1. Allowing to switch between multiple keyboard layouts (languages even in some cases,) with just a couple of mouse clicks and 2. Allowing to apply different trans-literation rule sets to selected areas. I suppose it could be a menu driven list of rule-sets like this: latin->cyrillic, cyrillic->latin, anything else.

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[17] Submitted by: acebone on Thursday 21st April 2005 at 14:18 -0400

That sounds just sweet :)

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[18] Submitted by: bazikcho on Thursday 21st April 2005 at 19:53 -0400

can you do work with this languages and maybe with this extensions and can you tell with what are the languages you insert next

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[19] Submitted by: bazikcho on Thursday 21st April 2005 at 20:08 -0400

filter remove this from up post

spellbound.sourceforge.net

dictionaries.mozdev.org/installation.html

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[20] Submitted by: Roman on Friday 22nd April 2005 at 00:42 -0400

Well, I speak Russian, Ukrainian, English, French, some Hebrew and very little German. For now Russ Key can only be used with alphabetical left to right languages, so Hebrew is out until I get to build in right to left support. Ukrainian is easy enough to add it is only a couple of letters different from Russian. French and German only need a few accented letters, so it's not a problem. But I don't want to do all the other languages for no reason by myself, after all, Russ Key does what I need ;) So if anyone is interested in creating their own keyboard layouts and even transliteration layouts, it's all described in the manual and design, it's not too difficult, and if you bother to do it I will test it and add it to the available layouts. Any takers?

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[21] Submitted by: bazikcho on Friday 22nd April 2005 at 05:47 -0400

like you say is easy to do it in Ukrainian a think is to be easy do it in Bulgarian and i think to do it

can you tell me from where i to start I am not very good in programing but I want to try and if i can i find someone who can

this can be useful and for you kredor.com

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[22] Submitted by: Roman on Friday 22nd April 2005 at 10:12 -0400

test

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[23] Submitted by: Roman on Friday 22nd April 2005 at 10:21 -0400

Here is the user manual describing how to switch keyboard layout to a different one
and it has links to layout string format description:

If you create a new one, send it to me and I will add it to the list of available layouts.

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[24] Submitted by: Roman on Friday 22nd April 2005 at 10:31 -0400

I need to take a look at this forum configuration, the links are stripped off all the time.

here is the link: russkey.mozdev.org/user-manual.html#SwitchingKeyboardMap

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[25] Submitted by: bazikcho a.k.a arrIs on Thursday 28th April 2005 at 22:21 -0400

Roman sorry but I don't have success with this code

I want to render your assistance to try to do it in Bulgarian

it is simple just remove this 2 letter; character; key " ё " and " ы " who are in Russian and they missing in Bulgarian and i test it and try

if you want to do it and send to me tell me i will give ma email or some thinkelse

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[26] Submitted by: Roman on Friday 29th April 2005 at 00:20 -0400

Ok, so I used the original Default mapping and removed the following from it:

1105 - small case ^e
1099 - small case y

1025 - capital ^E
1067 - capital

and here is what I got:

UPPERALPHA:65=1040,66=1041,67=1062,68=1044,69=1045,70=1060,71=1043,72=1063,73=1048,74=1049,75=1050,76=1051,77=1052,78=1053,79=1054,80=1055,81=1071,82=1056,83=1057,84=1058,85=1059,86=1046,87=1042,88=1061,90=1047UPPERSYMBOLS:39=1066,61=1068,91=1064,92=1069,93=1065,96=1070UPPERSYMBOLSSHIFTED:34=1066,43=1068,123=1064,124=1069,125=1065,126=1070LOWERALPHA:97=1072,98=1073,99=1094,100=1076,101=1077,102=1092,103=1075,104=1095,105=1080,106=1081,107=1082,108=1083,109=1084,110=1085,111=1086,112=1087,113=1103,114=1088,115=1089,116=1090,117=1091,118=1078,119=1074,120=1093,122=1079LOWERSYMBOLS:39=1098,61=1100,91=1096,92=1101,93=1097,96=1102LOWERSYMBOLSSHIFTED:34=1098,43=1100,123=1096,124=1101,125=1097,126=1102

Now, the problem is that the keys that were used to map the original Russian leters are not remaped from normal English keyboard, so now instead of 'Ы' the the keypress will give you 'Y' and instead of 'ы' it will give you 'y'.

Is that what you are looking for? I think not, you probably want to put a different Bulgarian letter mapping there so that 'Y' is mapped to something in that alphabet.

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[27] Submitted by: Andrei on Friday 29th April 2005 at 18:32 -0400

very cool, thx

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[28] Submitted by: arris on Saturday 30th April 2005 at 19:18 -0400

Roman
the letters from "Bulgarian phonetic" to Cyrillic alphabet i wrote here
lasgo.board.dk3.com/2/viewtopic.php?t=42

in this topic i wrote a "javascript" why do the same like russkey but in HTML and for bulgarian

lasgo.board.dk3.com/2/viewtopic.php?t=41

if you need anything else tell me

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[29] Submitted by: Meikal Mumin on Sunday 1st May 2005 at 12:45 -0400

Aloha,

i want to adjust ruskey for now to bulgarian translit.
for this purpose i need to change the following

i need to replace the following latin letters
sht = 1065
ie = 1049
io = 1067
u = 1066
y = 1059
ju = 1070

and remove this one
q = remove

i think its not to complicated editing the string to match simple
equasions. but i dont understand yet how to match a combination of
letters, like sht e.g. , to another letter.

thanks for your time,

greetz,

|The_DUDE|

btw... once i have accomplished the bulgarian transliteration, i think i
will try creating this for arabic and persian. i know both so it could
be done. only would have to think about good equasions for the arabic
letters.

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[30] Submitted by: Roman on Sunday 1st May 2005 at 12:54 -0400

Meikal: if you look at the available Transliteration Regular Expression Mappings russkey.mozdev.org/design.html#RegularExpressionMap you will see how to map multiple characters to one other character. For example this substring: \\b[uy]ge\\b,gi=1091,1078,1077 mapps exact words 'uge' or 'yge' to a string of these three unicode entities: 1091,1078,1077

Try it out.

By the way, isn't arabic written right to left? I will add support to that sometime later, but at this time Russ Key only can be used for left to right alphabet languages. But if you create the mapping I will add support sooner than later.

Thank you,
Roman

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[31] Submitted by: Ac1d on Monday 9th May 2005 at 04:19 -0400

Хи, куд йу плииз меик зис йусфул плагин авеилабл фор чатзилла туу? Ит вуд би веру гуд! Ценкю!

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[32] Submitted by: Ac1d on Monday 9th May 2005 at 09:36 -0400

Hi, could you please make this useful plugin available for chatzilla too? It would be very good! Thank you!

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[33] Submitted by: tuckbros on Thursday 12th May 2005 at 01:19 -0400

I discovered RussKey 30min ago. And I have several comments.
1. It does not work with Thunderbird version 1.0.2 (20050317) ( French ), the plugin is nowhere but in the list of installed plug in
2. I tried it with Firefox. I tried to write : privet, kak dela, menia zavut francois.
прижет, как дела, мениа зажут францоис.
it could be nice to find the в with the v-key, and maybe to recognize such strings as ia for я, sh for ш, ch for ч, shch for щ...

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[34] Submitted by: tuckbros on Thursday 12th May 2005 at 01:37 -0400

add to my previous comment,
the translit seems to work when the text is already written, but not when I am using it "on the fly".
maybe to check the characters coming before and after, the last written to find such combination, ia, iy, sh, shch...

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[34] Submitted by: tuckbros on Thursday 12th May 2005 at 01:39 -0400

add to my previous comment,
the translit seems to work when the text is already written, but not when I am using it "on the fly".
maybe to check the characters coming before and after, the last written to find such combination, ia, iy, sh, shch...

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[35] Submitted by: tuckbros on Thursday 12th May 2005 at 01:46 -0400

also working with Firefox 1.0.4

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[36] Submitted by: Roman on Thursday 12th May 2005 at 10:45 -0400

Just tried on Thunderbird 1.0.2 (English) the extension's icon is showing on the status bar. Tried both typing and transliterating - both work. Typing is a little clunky, sometimes I have to refocus on the text, but it is actually working. I wonder if tuckbros problem is related to the French version of T'bird.

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[37] Submitted by: Mario on Friday 13th May 2005 at 18:56 -0400

Hi, I found this plugin, by searching for something different (and quite simpler). Suppose my keyboard is switched to Cyrillic. Then without checking the indicator I am writing an address in the address bar (also without looking at the screen). Finally I look at the screen, just to find that the typed address is in cyrillic, i.e. useless. So I have to switch the keyboard to Eng. and start typing again. This happens too frequently with me and is very annoying. Is it possible to have a small plugin which converts the (phonetic) cyrillic to latin if (and only) you type in the address bar ? Thank you very much !

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[38] Submitted by: Roman on Saturday 14th May 2005 at 10:35 -0400

Mario: so do I understand you correctly: you switch your keyboard to Cyrillic on system level and then you get annoyed by typing Cyrillic in the address bar of your FF browser? Well it is easy enough to write such plugin but the effectiveness of it would depend on the keyboard layout you are using at your system level. You probably downloaded a phonetical keyboard map and overwrote your original system suggested Cyrillic keyboard layout. However there are many different keyboard layouts out there. If say there was an extension that could do this this extension would have to have the transliteration mappings externalized in the preferences so that you could adjust it to your personal keyboard layout - and this is done by Russ Key: the transliteration maps are externalized just like the keyboard layout maps. So in case such an extension was created you would have to be prepared to adjust the transliteration map to your own keyboard layout. This means you would have to be comfortable with following instructions such as these: russkey.mozdev.org/design.html#CharacterCodeMap

are you ready for that?

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[39] Submitted by: Mario on Tuesday 17th May 2005 at 05:09 -0400

>you switch your keyboard to Cyrillic on system level and then you get annoyed by typing Cyrillic in the address bar of your FF browser?

Exactly ! And since I use a phonetic layout, in 99% of the cases the address I write would be correct if there was an automatic switch to latin when I type in the address bar.

>the effectiveness of it would depend on the keyboard layout.

True, but if it's phonetic, the effectiveness would be high enough. For example, in addresses normally there are no "yu", "ya", etc. letters which have no phonetic analogue.

>...you would have to be prepared to adjust the transliteration map to your own keyboard layout. This means you would have to be comfortable with following instructions such as these: russkey.mozdev.org/design.html#CharacterCodeMap
are you ready for that?

Yes, I am perfectly OK with this.
Thank you.

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[40] Submitted by: Roman on Friday 20th May 2005 at 10:47 -0400

Re: Mikhail

Yes, I know that in TB the typing is not working properly (the text editor loses focus time to time while you type.) I am not sure how to fix that yet.

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[41] Submitted by: goodwill on Sunday 5th June 2005 at 19:59 -0400

Unbelievably good extension. Roman you might want to consider getting a free forum bbs for all the discussion. (one at works well for my extension). Its free though it has ads on top, but most of us are probably running abblock anyways :)

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[42] Submitted by: goodwill on Sunday 5th June 2005 at 20:03 -0400

apparanetly links with get ripped out.
I was trying to say to point out the invisionfree.com for free bbs.

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[43] Submitted by: Gideon on Monday 6th June 2005 at 11:19 -0400

Hi Roman,

Using Thunderbird 1.04 (English), Windows XP, Russ Key 0.4.6: it works pretty well, some focusing problems but you know about those already. My problem is when I open a new compose window. In the text area my .sig (set as the default .sig under Account Settings) doesn't appear, and when I click on the text area the cursor doesn't appear either - neither before or after I start typing, though text does appear when I type. However, after sending I look in the Sent folder and see that the sent message does contain the .sig, but it comes first, followed by the text. (And all in grey, as the .sig is meant to be).

Spasibo, naverno ty ne predstavljal sebe kakoi budet golovnaja bol' :-)

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[44] Submitted by: arris on Wednesday 8th June 2005 at 11:46 -0400

if someone have information for BG version to write something 10x

and roman do you see that
www karlson.ru/firefox/rus2lat/index.html

addons.mozilla.org/extensions/moreinfo.php?application=firefox&category=Languages&numpg=10&id=797

you can work together for more functions perhaps

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[45] Submitted by: Johann on Sunday 12th June 2005 at 07:35 -0400

Hi Roman

my ehglish is bad, I will write in russian.
Спасибо за extension работает хоросо и под линух ето единстженная возможност писат по русски, под windows ест другие алтернативы. Но у меня одна проблемка, у меня немецкая клавиатура. Я попытался сделат немецку, но у меня ничего не получилос. Вы не могли бы сделат немецку раскладку? Вед нас рускоговорясих в германии около 2,5милиона и многие были бы очен благодарны. Заранее говору вам спасибо.
С увазением Johann

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[46] Submitted by: Johann on Sunday 12th June 2005 at 07:42 -0400

Hi Roman
Zdes nelzja pisat po russki, ja ne znal, proshu proshenija. Roman ja popitalsja sdelat German raskladku klaviaturi i u menja nichego ne poluchilos. Pomogite pozalusta sdelat. Nas ruskogoborashix v germanii ochen mnogo i mi bili bi ochen vam blagodarni. Spasibo
S yvacheniem Johann

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[47] Submitted by: Roman on Sunday 12th June 2005 at 10:49 -0400

Johann: please, provide your email address, I can help you but I will need you to help me to help you since I don't have a German keyboard myself.

Johann: mne nujen vash pochtovij adres chtoby vam pomoch, tak kak u men'a net Nemetzkoj klaviaturi. Ya poshlu vam programmku v HTML stranitse, kotoruju vam pridets'a zapustit', i to chto raspechataets'a prislat' mne obratno.

Roman

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[48] Submitted by: Roman on Sunday 12th June 2005 at 10:50 -0400

Johann: ili prosto napishite mne na roman_mir@hotmail.com

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[49] Submitted by: Johann on Tuesday 21st June 2005 at 13:25 -0400

Roman, ja vam otvetil. Spasibo

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[50] Submitted by: HenryS on Monday 25th July 2005 at 11:28 -0400

Hello Roman,

It seems to be very useful extention, but I think, that having slightly other flavour as well, would increase usability.

1. As Latin keyboard has less letters than Russian one,
it would be feasible to have two-characters Russian letters such as "ch", "sh", "jo" etc. That allows not to sacrifice useful special characters like "[", "/", etc. without pressing complicated key combination to switch. You can find a good mapping at popular www.translit.ru. I like it and use it, but it is just a website.

2. Next idea from that website: you cold use simple "Esc" key for instant switch between Rus and Lat WHILE YOU ARE in the extension

I believe, that having two flavours will improve the functionality substantially. And the approach will be useful, for your next steps, when you use it for other languages, which has more letters than Latin.

I hope you consider my suggestions and do it.
Thank you in advance.
Best regards,

Henry

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[51] Submitted by: Roman on Tuesday 26th July 2005 at 12:07 -0400

Henry: you are not the first one to ask for this. Ok, I will look what I can do about it.

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[52] Submitted by: test on Tuesday 26th July 2005 at 12:11 -0400

test

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[53] Submitted by: Sanya on Saturday 20th August 2005 at 23:01 -0400

Roman!

First of all, thank you so much for the plugin, it is a lifesaver when I write to my friends back home in moscow. One thing, I can not figure out is how to put in the letter "ye" (kak v "yezhik", "yelka", itd)
I tried putting in the full map and use the / character, but it didn't work. help, please?

Sanya

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[54] Submitted by: Roman on Monday 22nd August 2005 at 10:47 -0400

Sanya: after you copy the default mapping into the russkey.KeyboardMap you need to restart FireFox.

the '\' sign is 'ae' sign (the 31st character as in 'eto'.)

The '/' is the letter you are looking for.

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[55] Submitted by: Mila on Monday 10th October 2005 at 16:09 -0400

Great extension! Can't believe I haven't found it sooner.

Still, a few more different keyboard layouts for russian would be great (I'm not up to the task of creating one myself). The one I want in particular is the one that mirrors the standard phonetic layout on Macs. It would be wonderful to have an easy UI for creating new layouts -- that way we could tinker with them ourselves.

Mila

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[56] Submitted by: Michael Zlatkovsky on Tuesday 25th October 2005 at 00:21 -0400

I think this toolbar would be 100 times more useful if the translating occurred using the same letter substitutions as on www.translit.ru. Or, for those users who are already used to the current translation method, an option to choose between the two layout schemes would be great!

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[57] Submitted by: testerus on Sunday 20th November 2005 at 13:19 -0500

There are many different methods of transliteration, it would be nice if one could choose which one to use when converting from Latin to Cyrillic. From Cyrillic to Latin I guess the best is a dictionary approach, like what is used in mozilla to detect the encoding.
Wikipedia lists some common transliterations here:

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[58] Submitted by: hux on Tuesday 6th December 2005 at 13:52 -0500

Roman: I'm living in Kyrgyzstan and learning Russian and I just discovered your plugin. This will make life *so* much easier. Thanks so much!

One suggestion: When you highlight latin characters and click the button at the bottom right it transliterates to cyrillic. How about altering the plugin so that if you click it again it goes back to latin text? Being able to go both ways would make it even more useful.

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[59] Submitted by: tatari on Tuesday 31st January 2006 at 12:43 -0500

roman,

great work! I have the same request to make as henry's:
mutiple keys-->one char.Can i suggest that you could keep track of the lastest char submitted,and in case that the addition with the new one gives something, go back and change it to the resulting char...

Anyways, keep it up.

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[60] Submitted by: Nicole Hansen on Wednesday 1st March 2006 at 18:29 -0500

Roman-This is a great extension. I'm trying to convert it to use for writing ancient Egyptian hieroglyphic transliteration. I can manually change the settings through about:config to get it working properly, but I want to change the Russian specific language and icons and remove the translation options. I've tried changing the code but when I go to convert it back to an xpi and install it, I either get a message saying that it "could not be installed because there was an error extracting and reading the manifest file" or that it can't find the installation file, even though it is there. I've never worked with Firefox extensions before so I don't know what to do. If you can help at all, please email me through this page:

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[61] Submitted by: Roman Mironenko on Wednesday 1st March 2006 at 19:02 -0500

Nicole, thank you for the interest.
The current version of russkey uses a keyboard mapping system that is outdated by my standard. You may want to take a look at the mapping scheme that I used for the latest LeetKey extension. My next step with RussKey is to remove the change the key mapping scheme in RussKey to a new scheme, that is like the one in LeetKey but different in a way, that will allow mapping multiple characters on the keyboard to a single translation character. I understand that the ancient Egyptian will contain more characters than what you will find on a normal computer keyboard, so you could in principle use a scheme, where a combination of keys from the keyboard are translated into one character, is this correct?

I am going to work on this problem for the next few weeks, (it is Tax time in Canada and as much as I enjoy writing Free software in my spare time, I have to file my taxes, or they will put me to jail :) and since I run a corporation it is more than just personal taxes that I have to do. So this will not be fast. But I am not alone now, there is one more person who is interested in building a new extension with me, that will support multiple languages, he lives in France and wants to be able to type in amharic - ethiopian language, and this also requires many-to-one character translation. Was Egyption written left-to-right? The new extension will have left-to-right and right-to-left support. Also by my design the new extension will be easy to use to map other character sets from a user interface (again, try LeetKey and see the Settings dialog.)
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Of-course if you just want to use the RussKey extension in the form it is in today, you can do that, but the translation map is awkward, not friendly and not useful for many keys to one mapping.

To answer you current question specifically, you can try removing the manifest file from the XPI alltogether and installing that way. The installation will work (if there are no other errors,) and there will be a manifest file generated by the installer. You will be able to find the new manifest file on disk, where the extension will be installed.

Make sure that if you do this, you generate a different GUID and don't use the one in the RussKey package, or it will be impossible to use your extension and RussKey in the same browser installation.

Roman

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[62] Submitted by: Andrzej Michalski on Thursday 2nd March 2006 at 10:14 -0500

Roman,

I've downloaded the extension recently - very nice one.
And some comments:

1. In the russkey.KeyboardMap string descriptions for both "io" and "tviordyj znak"
letters were missing. What interesting, on the "Design" program page the string is correct.

2. I've removed letters "VK_" from the russkey.ff.shortcuts.toggleintexteditor and similar strings.
Now in the "Russkey Settings" menu I've only "F2" not "VK_F2" and so on.
Strange, but in the status bar butoon right-click menu these letters were already removed.

3. Within next few days I will try to implement different keyboard layout, the one I like
for several years. If you like I will send you my comments about.

4. If you will plan to translate the extension into Polish, please drop a line.

Rgds -

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[63] Submitted by: Pavel on Friday 7th April 2006 at 13:47 -0400

I've been using another translit for a long time and want to know if it's possible to use the same character mappings and shortcuts as in that translit? That translit works as a bookmarklet in any site with text inputs
here's the page for that translit:

(in the Help section you may read about bookmarklets)

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[64] Submitted by: Pavel on Friday 7th April 2006 at 13:51 -0400

I don't know why the link to that translit disapeared in my last post. Anyways, here it is:
block111.servehttp.com/translit

and the nice shortcut I'm interested in is to convert selected text (there it's done with Ctrl+space combination

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[65] Submitted by: Danny on Monday 24th April 2006 at 17:34 -0400

First of all, this is a nice extension.

There is one thing, which would make it even more convenient - on the fly substitution of translit. This would be much better than typing and translit it afterwards (which is not bad, because it can be used outside textboxes), because you will see errors much faster and it is easier to correct them. If I'm just too stupid to find this functionality, ignore this post.

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[66] Submitted by: Roman on Monday 24th April 2006 at 17:45 -0400

Danny, all you have to do is either focus on the textarea and press F2, or (especially if you have an older version of the extension,) right click on the text area, select RussKey, select 'toggle text editor' option and type in Russian directly.

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[67] Submitted by: Vladi on Tuesday 2nd May 2006 at 13:30 -0400

I'm really expired of RussKey 1.4.9 for FF1.5!
Do You plan to adapt it for Thunderbird 1.5?
Thank You in Advance.

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[68] Submitted by: Anton on Wednesday 14th June 2006 at 09:08 -0400

All around great extension. Too bad doesn't work with Thunderbird 1.5. Whenever you can Roman, please help out with that. :)

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[69] Submitted by: andreasg on Monday 25th December 2006 at 16:53 -0800

Hi! What about the mongolian letters? Mongolian has two letters more than russian, the Ö and the Ü, mostly assigned to : amd ; key on english keyboards?
And it's possible to create a translation with the Universal Dictionary project (they have much more languages than altavista, e.G. mongolian

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[70] Submitted by: Alexey on Monday 8th January 2007 at 18:51 -0800

Hi,
I am really need the option of making translit from Cyrillic. At the moment, when I want this, I need to log in Yandex e-mail which have this feature. I hoped that your extension have this, but not... That is why I uninstall it.
Also, it will be great if you add "Russian Translit dictionary".

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[71] Submitted by: Alexey Gritsyna on Thursday 1st February 2007 at 23:12 -0800

Hi Roman.

Awesome job! Thank you.

As a question, I want to ask if it is possible to make your extension work with IE7? I hope I am not offending anyone by asking this :)

In any case, Thanks again!

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[72] Submitted by: Roman on Tuesday 6th February 2007 at 21:01 -0800

Alexey, it is not possible to adopt the FireFox extension for IE. It is possible to create an ActiveX control for IE, which is something totally different from an FF extension. However since I do not use IE much at all, it is not useful to me. Also I do not own any MS tools that I could use to make an ActiveX control legally. I suppose if someone provided me with legal tools and paid for my time I would do it :)

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[73] Submitted by: Mike on Monday 12th February 2007 at 06:55 -0800

Roman,
there exists rusian phonetical keyboard layout. there is no need to "re-invent a wheel".

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[74] Submitted by: Mike on Monday 12th February 2007 at 07:24 -0800

as I suspected, URL link would not be allowed. So, just search google for "Russian phonetical keyeboard + win xp"

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[75] Submitted by: Roman on Monday 12th February 2007 at 08:55 -0800

Mike, then you should just use that one, I like my new wheel, I use it.
Cheers.

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[76] Submitted by: AdmiralBeotch on Saturday 2nd February 2008 at 09:21 -0800

Love LeetKey... but I've noticed a problem... when trying to encrypt with AES, it doesn't work when there are html tags in the plaintext.

Also, it appears that base64 encoding has some issues where html tags are being leaked and not encoded. Specifically, this is occuring with the < pre > tags.

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[77] Submitted by: Roman on Wednesday 19th March 2008 at 04:42 -0700

Roman,

Great extension do you have a plan to make it work under Firefox 3?

Thanks.

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[78] Submitted by: Aaron Kulkis on Saturday 29th March 2008 at 23:26 -0700

How about Seamonkey support?

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